0002004: File list: Row height in file view is twice bigger than it should be

ID	Project	Category	View Status	Date Submitted	Last Update

0002004	Double Commander	Graphical user interface	public	2018-01-21 23:13	2018-07-03 02:32

Reporter	mentallurg	Assigned To
Priority	normal	Severity	major	Reproducibility	always
Status	new	Resolution	open
Projection	none	ETA	none
OS	Windows	OS Version	10, 7
Product Version	0.8.1

Summary	0002004: File list: Row height in file view is twice bigger than it should be
Description	The row height is in the file list twice bigger than it should be. This causes following problems with usability: 1. Essentially less files are displayed at once. User feels uncomfortable because a lot of place is wasted instead of displaying more information (more files). 2. The file list is hard to use because users are forced now to scroll file list twice more often. The main reason why Double Commander exists is to provide better usability than Total Commander, Windows Explorer, Nemo, Thunar, Dolphin and other file managers. But this bug makes usability essentially worse. That's why I set severity to major. In the versions 0.6 and 0.7 file list was displayed correct. In 0.8.1 the font size is the same as it was in the version 0.7, only icon size is in 0.8.1 much bigger than in 0.7. May be incorrect icon representation causes this problem?
Steps To Reproduce	No special steps are needed. Just open any directory containing 10-20 files, e.g. open directory where Double Commander is installed.
Additional Information	The problem exists on: - Windows 10 - Windows 7 - Linux Mint 17.3, Cinnamon, QT version of Double Commander - Linux Mint 17.3, Cinnamon, GTK2 version of Double Commander Screen resolutions on which it happens: - 1920x1080 - 1680x1050
Tags	No tags attached.
Attached Files	row_height_wrong.png (126,859 bytes) row_height_wrong.png (126,859 bytes)

Fixed in Revision
Operating system	Windows, Linux
Widgetset	Win32, GTK2, QT4
Architecture	64-bit

Alexx2000 2018-01-21 23:50 administrator ~0002512	Not a bug. Default icons size is 32x32 now. But you can go to options and set small icons as it was before. Also see about "ExtraLineSpan" here - http://doublecmd.github.io/doc/en/configxml.html

mentallurg 2018-01-24 02:43 reporter ~0002515 Last edited: 2018-01-24 03:00	Cool. I use DC since 2014 and have never looked at these settings. Really, this solves the problem. You are wrong that the default is 16x16. In the version 0.8.1 there is no 16x16. There is 20x20, 30x30, 40x40, 60x60. Where as in the version 0.7 there is really 16x16, 22x22, 32x32. But 20x20 in the version 0.8.1 is fine to me. So we can change severity to a normal or minor. But I still find that it is bad that the default size is so huge. Even Windows Explorer is in this respect better than DC, because it uses small icons like DC 0.7. I don't understand the purpose of such huge icons. Who cares about icons? Does anybody look at them at all? if yes, they use normally Windows Explorer, not DC. The easiest way to distinguish file types is to use different colours, like red for .exe and green for .txt. But DC has already such feature. Colors help much more than icons to distinguish file types. Every tool that has focus on user's productivity uses white space very efficiently. - Look at IDEs like IntelliJ IDEA, NetBeans, Eclipse, Atom, Sublime: All of them use icons intensively. But icons' height is the same as text height. The lists of file names are very condensed in all these IDEs. And this makes sense. They want that user gets as much information as possible at _one_ glance. Where as DC now _hides_ 50% of information because of huge icon size. - Look at the Configuration --> Options dialog in DC: The icons have same size as texts. And this is very good. Why don't you use 32x32 also there? I think you understand this would be bad. Then why do you use 32x32 or 40x40 in the file list? Be consistent, use same rules across the whole application. Currently it looks like absolutely different developers with absolutely different design concepts worked on the file list and on options dialog. Be consistent. Use small icons by default in the whole application. - DC is in many aspects better than Windows Explorer, Thunar, Dolphin etc. But even Windows Explorer uses small icons in the directory tree. And this is good. This makes the view very convenient. User gets much more information at _one_ glance. Why do you make DC worse than all these File Managers? - What was the motivation behind changing the default size to such a huge size? It would be normal, if such huge size was used in the "Thumbnails View" mode. But it destroys the layout in the "Columns View" mode. If somebody really needs huge icons, add a toolbar button for them, so that they can see huge icons per single mouse click. But let the most users be productive in their work and keep the small icon size by default. I suggest you to improve user experience in DC and to use smaller icon size by default.

robertn 2018-07-03 02:32 reporter ~0002660	1. It should have been noted that it is still (ver. 0.8.3) pretty possible to change the icon size even to 16x16 (or probably any reasonable size) by simple editing doublecmd.xml file (<Icons> section). (I did it, too.) 2. I guess that the motivation for changing the default icon size was HDPI, see another HDPI-related issues and it seems to be legitimate from this point of view.

Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2018-01-21 23:13	mentallurg	New Issue
2018-01-21 23:13	mentallurg	File Added: row_height_wrong.png
2018-01-21 23:50	Alexx2000	Note Added: 0002512
2018-01-21 23:50	Alexx2000	Status	new => feedback
2018-01-24 02:43	mentallurg	Note Added: 0002515
2018-01-24 02:43	mentallurg	Status	feedback => new
2018-01-24 02:58	mentallurg	Note Edited: 0002515
2018-01-24 03:00	mentallurg	Note Edited: 0002515
2018-02-26 14:07	Alexx2000	Relationship added	related to 0002026
2018-07-03 02:32	robertn	Note Added: 0002660

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